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The Complete Play by Christopher Fry. John Gielgud and Pamela Brown (Decaa)
This is the earliest example of radio theatre scheduled on KRAB. From an LP recording.
Cast - The characters in the order in which they are heard
Thomas Mendip, a discharged soldier. . .John Gielgud
Richard, an orphaned clerk. . . . . . . . . .Richard Burton
Alizon Eliot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Penelope Munday
Nicholas Devize . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .David Evans
Margaret Devize, mother of Nicholas . . .Nora Nicholson
Humphrey Devize, brother of Nicholas . .Richard Leech
Hebble Tyson, the Mayor. . . . . . . . . . .George Howe
Jennet Jourdemayne. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Pamela Brown
The Chaplain. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Eliot Makeham
Edward Tappercoom, a Justice. . . . . . .Peter Bull
Matthew Skipps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Esme Percy
Directed by John Gielgud
Scene: A room in the house of Hebble Tyson, Mayor of the small market town of Cool Clary
Time: The 15th Century either more or less or exactly.
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Another in the Black Mass series from KPFA with Erik Bauersfeld and Janet Dawson.
Erik Bauersfeld passed away Apr 3, 2016, and it seems appropriate to share one of his productions now. Starting in 1961, Bauersfeld was KPFA's Drama and Literature Director for 31 years, which means he weathered some pretty terrible storms. Introducing his interview/conversation with Bauersfeld, John Whiting writes "For Erik and me, this was just an arbitrary slice out of a dialog extending over four decades. As one of the two long term KPFA survivors who were not lined up on either side of the barricades, his insights into the station’s gradual commercialization and vulgarization are Confucian in their self-evident simplicity."
Although KRAB aired others of his Black Mass productions before Oct 1964, "The Squaw" is the earliest for which we have a program guide that confirms the date of broadcast.
Courtesy Pacifica Radio Archives
The Cambridge Drama Festival Production of 1956 directed by Albert Marre, with Siobhan McKenna as Joan (RCA Victor LOC-6133).
"There's something about the girl"
“We want a few mad people now. See where the sane ones have landed us!”
Over the years Shaw's play was aired at least six times on KRAB. This one in 1965 looks to have been the first, directed by Albert Marre, with Siobhan McKenna, Ian Keith, Earle Hyman, Frederic Tozere, Michael Wager, Thayer David, Earl Montgomery, Dick Moore, Dennis Patrick, and Bryant Haliday.
Here is a review of the production in the Harvard Crimson by Stephen R Barnett, Aug 16, 1956
Scene 1 opens . . . . .
A fine spring morning on the river Meuse, between Lorraine and Champagne, in the year 1429 A.D., in the castle of Vaucouleurs.
Captain Robert de Baudricourt, a military squire, handsome and physically energetic, but with no will of his own, is disguising that defect in his usual fashion by storming terribly at his steward, a trodden worm, scanty of flesh, scanty of hair, who might be any age from 18 to 55, being the sort of man whom age cannot wither because he has never bloomed.
The two are in a sunny stone chamber on the first floor of the castle. At a plain strong oak table, seated in chair to match, the captain presents his left profile. The steward stands facing him at the other side of the table, if so deprecatory a stance as his can be called standing. The mullioned thirteenth-century window is open behind him. Near it in the corner is a turret with a narrow arched doorway leading to a winding stair which descends to the courtyard. There is a stout fourlegged stool under the table, and a wooden chest under the window.
Found in the Internet Archives
ZOO STORY. Edward Albee's chilling stage dialogue first performed in 1959, here done by Mark Richman and William Daniels.
Directed by Arthur Luce Klein. From a Spoken Arts monaural recording. The notes on the album jacket contain this anecdote: "'The Zoo Story' has been performed in a dozen different countries. Someone in South Africa wanted to do it as well, but Albee turned it down. He didn't actually say no to them. He merely said that if they did 'The Zoo Story' they would also have to do 'The Death of Bessie Smith'."
Recording collection of c reinsch, CR0083
GOGOL'S Diary of a Madman, produced by Erik Bauersfeld for a KPFA series called Black Mass.
Adapted for radio by Erik Bauersfeld; Technical production by John Whiting; Music design by KPFA music director Charles Shere. The cast is Erik Bauersfeld and Bernard Mayes as the Madman and his alter-ego, respectively; and Pat Franklyn plays the women, and dogs, in his life.
John Whiting gives a production date of Dec 16, 1964. The earliest KPFA broadcast date is Feb 6, 1965. Erik Bauersfeld also did an earlier "imaginative rendition" of Madman (probably a reading) that aired May 22, 1963.
If you are curious about the Black Mass series, more can be learned at John Whiting's MyKPFA site.
A reading of Diary of a Madman by Mark S Klyn at the Berkeley Reader's Theatre is also in the KRAB Archive and can be found on the Readings page.
Courtesy John Whiting and the Pacifica Radio Archives
The play by Peter Weiss, presented by THE Royal Shakespear Company, directed by Peter Brook and loaned to KRAB by Standard Records. [Guide listing for the first KRAB broadcast, Jun 8, 1966]
Right at this time we have an hour and a half sized hole which we are planning to try to fill with a recording of MARAT SADE, the (off?) Broadway play about and for (?) crazy people. Care to listen in?? [Guide listing for Sep 16, 1966]
Peter Weiss' musical play, directed by Peter Brooks and performed by The Royal Shakespeare Company. The cast includes Patrick Magee, Ian Richardson and Glenda (Secret Garden) Jackson. [Guide listing for Jul 13, 1976]
The Royal Shakespearean Company under the direction of Peter Brook performs Peter Weiss' remarkable play frequently regarded as a synthesis of the theatrical principles of Bertold Brecht and Antonin Artaud. [Guide listing for Jan 12, 1979
This was broadcast on at least six occasions on KRAB, for which I think I am partly to blame as I purchased a copy when it was released and loaned it to the station several times. In addition to the four air dates listed above, it was also aired Jun 9, 1966 (morning repeat); and Jan 29, 1975.
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WALKING SOFTLY ON A DEAD HORSE: RADIO THEATRE - Frank and Paula tune in on Ralph and Stella who are digging this doctor scene who are watching this artist make this chick in this bar where they're watching young lovers in the country. But where does that guy on the airplane come in? Inside the cage of television. A play by T.M. Lopez. (KPFA) [KRAB guide Feb 15, 1974]
Written and Directed by T.M.Lopez [Tom Lopez, president and founder of ZBS Media: "Fourth Tower of Inverness", "Moon Over Morocco," "Ruby,""Stars & Stuff," "Travels with Jack," "The Taj Express". ]
Produced by Susan Miller
Sound Production Engineer - Warren Van Orden
David de Selle
This is another of the recordings from the NFCB Collection at the University of Maryland. Most of those recordings were 30 minutes in length - probably 1.5 mil magnetic tape. But this one is nearly 60 minutes in total and, in addition to Dead Horse, contains the following:
Some short clips of musical fill punctuated by clips from "A Show of Force", a program of social and political satire produced by Richard Neuweiler and Bill Alton at WBAI in 1964 and 1965. Lorenzo described this as a program "which managed to pin everyone wriggling on the wall."
SHOW OF FORCE An interview with the Loch Ness Monster, and other timely political comment. The first of a new series from WBAI, with Richard Neuweiler - KRAB Dec 13, 1964
How these came to be combined into a single tape/program is something of a mystery, as there were no embedded introductions explaining what it was people were hearing, and the tape does not seem to have any meaningful labeling. But, I suppose, in the 1960s "blowing people's minds" might require elements of surprise, shock and awe, and being stoned might have increased a listener's tolerance for "hunh?" moments.
Judge for yourself.
Sixteen Characters Walking Softly on a Dead Horse: 25:27
A Show of Force and Fill music: 33:18
Recording courtesy University of Maryland Special Collections and University Archives, collection of the National Federation of Community Broadcasters (NFCB) - umd-bcast-072191-0002
"THE INVESTIGATOR" or Is God a Commie? A heavy, nasty and excellently produced anti-McCarthy (Joe) satire. From an immaculate conception, he dies in a plane crash and goes to heaven. Where he once again begins anti-communist investigations - in the course of which deporting (“From up Here to down there") Mr. Socrates, John Milton, Spinoza, Voltaire, and J. S. Bach. And, in the end, subpoenas the "Chief".
Written by Reuben Ship and produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in 1954, it stars John Drainie in the lead role. Much of the inspiration for the play came from Reuben Ship's own experiences as a victim of House Committee on Un-American Activities. For more information about the play and Ship see A Palpable Hit: A Study of the Impact of Reuben Ship's The Investigator
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BY THE LIGHT OF THE DIAL-'Dimension X: Outer Limits' - broadcast April 8, 1950. With David MacDonald. This program requested by Dr. Spider. Mayhaps you have a favorite, too?
The correct title of the episode (Nbr 1) should be "Outer Limit", but that's minor. David MacDonald was volunteering in 1970 bringing his collection of old radio programs to KRAB. As I remember he was also involved in film making, and in the Seattle Film Society. For a time in 1974 he was on staff, collaborating with Jeff Michka and Pamela Jennings on news and public affairs programming. In 1979 he and Paul Stanbery produced a program of appearances of science fiction writers at a conference/fair at Seattle Central Community College.
It is curious, to me, that "this program was requested by Dr Spider". Did Bob Friede have an interest in sci-fi radio?
Recording courtesy the Internet Archive (archive.org), IA0011
For a short time in 1970 KRAB broadcast a portion of the 1948 radio serial, Chandu The Magician. It can be found in two program guides from Dec 1970, but it does not appear in 1971, although two (more?) episodes were aired in Jun and Jul of 1979. Three episodes were recorded off the air, though, and we have them here. It seems that it was decided to edit the commercials out of the programs. Perhaps that was the reason for abandoning the plan to broadcast the entire series. Where did these transcriptions come from? Preceeding Chandu on Wednesday nights was "BY THE LIGHT OF THE DIAL- Old radio shows with David MacDonald". Perhaps David was the source?
Hear episodes 1 to 3 courtesy of the Internet Archive. These include the commercials.
Dec 9, 1970 - CHANDU THE MAGICIAN -chapter 4 of perhaps 60
Frank Chandler is an adept in the mystic secrets of the far east where he is known as Chandu the Magician. In India, by his occult powers, he is able to see a sinister dark skinned man near the home of Chandler's widowed sister Dorothy Regent in California. Arriving suddenly in Beverly Hills, he learns the rooms of Dorothy's husband Robert have been locked since his death at sea nine years ago. Chandler insists on searching the locked wing. Regent's valuable secret drawings and formulas have disappeared. Then in a crystal ball the family is shown a room in Egypt where an evil looking man calling himself Roxor speaks of Robert Regent as if he were still alive. A moment later Chandler discovers in the garden the sinister turbaned figure who had brought him half-way across the world. Instantly Chandler decides to go to Egypt at once. The present scene is a narrow street in the city of Alexandria.
Dec 14, 1970 - CHANDU THE MAGICIAN - In a narrow street in the old native quarter of Alexandria, Egypt, Dorothy Regent, her young son Bob, and her daughter, Betty, have been tricked into entering the dimly lighted upper room of a rug shop. Not yet realising what has happened, Dorothy turns toward the doorway as she hears footsteps coming up the dark stairs. No. 5.
Dec 16, 1970 - CHANDU THE MAGICIAN - Frank Chandler, known in the Far East as Chandu, his sister Dorothy Regent, and her two children had encurred the hatred of a man they have seen but once as a malevolent figure in a crystal ball. He is known to them only as Roxor. Part 6.
If you are desperate to learn the fates of Chandu, Dorothy, Bob, and Betty, the Internet Archive has them all. On the Internet Archieve list, episode 7 of the series above is labelled "18 48-07-06 Dorothy is Rescued". You weren't expecting that were you?
Recordings of episodes 4, 5 and 6 courtesy Will Estill, WE0016
Dec 10, 1971 - Part One of CBS Radio Workshop's program, with Aldous Huxley, author of the novel from which it is adapted, as the narrator: ". . . a fantastic parable about the de-humanization of human beings. In the negative utopia described in my story, man has been subordinated to his own inventions. Science, technology, social organization, these things have ceased to serve man; they have become his masters."
Dec 11, 1971 - Part Two. "A quarter of a century has passed since the book was published. And in that time, our world has taken so many steps in the wrong direction, that if I were writing today, I would date my story not 600 years in the future, but at the most 200. The price of liberty and even of common humanity, is eternal vigilance," says Aldous Huxley, author of the book, and narrator of the radio play.
It is now sixty years since Huxley revised his original estimate of the date in which he placed the Brave New World (2540) from 600 years to "at most 200" years in the future (2156). With 140 years to go, his revision appears still too optimistic. Our Brave New World will surely complete its transformation well before the centuries end.
Brave New World was produced by the CBS Radio Workshop, and first aired Jan 27, and Feb 3, 1956. As CBS prepares to abandon its radio division, it seems appropriate to share this in the KRAB archive.
Produced and Directed by William Froug; Music composed by Bernard Herrman; Hosted by William Conrad; Narration by Aldous Huxley
Cast: Bill Idleson, Charlotte Lawrence, Doris Singleton, Gloria Henry, Herb Butterfield, Jack Kruschen, Joseph Kearns, Lurene Tuttle, Parley Baer, Vic Perrin, Byron Kane, Sam Edwards
Recording courtesy archive.org
THE BREADLINE THEATRE: Stories of H. P. Lovecraft - the sixth Breadline production, this time co-ordinated by Raymond Jarvi and Ivars Mikelson, engineering by Bill Seymour.
The Breadline Theatre was one of Greg Palmer's productions. Between 1971 and 1972 the players included Susan Marshall, James Mish'alani, Kirby Duffle, and Ivars Mikelson, Charlotte Richie, Janet Hews, and Sverre Arestad. The director (and occasionally performing) was Raymond Jarvi, with technical assistance from Greg Palmer and Bill Seymour.
From Beyond, from Dagon and Other Stories (21:43)
Ex Oblivione (5:53)
Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv L0664
Self-Accusation by Peter Handke, produced by the Empty Space Association at Stage One, 1971
Written by Peter Handke, directed by Julian Schembri, and performed by Tom Spiller and Laurel Lee Johnson, Self-Accusation opened at Stage One (87 Pike in the Market) Jun 17, 1971.
There is no recording date on the tape label, but it does indicate it was broadcast during "Marathon Oct 1972". Unfortunately the guide of Oct 1972 does not mention a marathon or "Self-Accusation". Perhaps it was broadcast during an open hour, or maybe it was actually the marathon of Oct 1971. It may have been part of the "whole roomful of other stuff, plus special programs and appeals for funds" that was to be spontaneously incorporated between Oct 15 and 17, 1971.
Click on the ad from program guide 216 (right) for a casting call, announcement of opening, and review by John Voorhees.
Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv L0666
Jesse - Greg Palmer
Lee Mellon - Dick Parker
Elaine - Lindsay MacDonald
Elizabeth - Barbara Castleman
Alligator - Stoney
Produced by Barbara Castleman and Pia Perniciaro.
At about the 16:34 mark there is a dropout that could not be repaired: "valiently attacking the world's longest apple, and then we were close to each other,".
Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv L0233
There is no guide description. It wasn't scheduled in the guide. Jean Shepherd was scheduled, but the tape from WOR was not in the slot for this day, so someone decided The Firesign Theatre might be a good substitute. Believing it had language that might offend some listeners (The short-term license renewal hearing was the previous year), Phil Bannon set up a six second delay.....and away we go.
Here we have side 1 of a then newly released commercial LP. While the LP was stereo, KRAB was not, with the result that, heard over the air, it was a bit harder to make out what the Firesign crew was up to.
It was the day before the presidential election. If you listen through to the end, at about 20 minutes in, after Phil Bannon apologizes, sort of, for not playing Jean Shepherd, you will hear him announce that Phil Ochs performed earlier that evening at Kane Hall "over at the University of Washington" and that KRAB was there recording an interview and a song, which we will hear now. No we won't. No we won't. The tape just ends.
But we do have excerpts from a great reminiscence by Dan Mortensen who worked at the concert that night. The complete story can be found (click) here.
I got to work with Phil once.
It was the night before the 1972 election, and for some reason there was a free concert for the occasion in Room 120 of Kane Hall at the University of Washington in Seattle. I have no idea who put it on or why.
Kane 120 was an unlikely choice of rooms, as it is a classroom with about 450 fixed chairs with writing surfaces. There is no stage, although the front of the room does not have chairs, and the fixed chairs are mounted in tiers, so the back of the room is about 20' higher then the front. There are just fluorescent lights and dimmable room lights, but not specific stage lighting, which was why someone asked me to come. The PA system is built in and was and is terrible, and the room has a hollow echo to it (all brick walls and concrete floor). There is a room next door that is more of a concert space and not quite twice as large, but this event was in 120 and not next door.
I think I'd heard of Phil Ochs but had not seen him before. The UW staff guy doing sound, Don Zonker, was running up and down the stairs getting ready for the show; the back-and-forth was because the PA was definitely not a concert PA, definitely a classroom PA, and he had to add parts here and there to make it work. I was paying attention to what I was doing, and was glad I wasn't helping on sound (a hopeless task in that room with that gear), so I don't know what he was going through, but he was working at a fever pitch to get ready.
Longer story shorter, as showtime approached, people started coming in. And coming in. And coming in.
Pretty soon, all the seats were filled, and people kept coming in. By the start of the show, not only was every seat filled, but also all the spaces between the seats. And all the cross aisles in every row were filled. All the aisles were filled. The edge of the projection booth window (which ran the full length of the room) had people sitting on it, except where Don had to look through. The flat area at the front of the room was filled. I have never seen a room that full of people. It would not surprise me if 1500 people or more were in that room.
Phil did a really great show, and had the audience in the palm of his hand. We were all aware that George McGovern had had an uphill battle that would be resolved the next day, but nobody there knew how far uphill it was. There was hopeful optimism in the crowd, and Phil was hopeful and optimistic, too, and encouraging us to continue to fight the good fight. We really felt like there was a possibility things were going to change.
We learned the next day how badly our asses had been kicked.
Phil's actual death was a shock, and I didn't really know until reading one of the bios what a sad case he was, despite which or maybe because of, he wrote and performed some really great music.
Now, back to Firesign Theatre - "Not Insane" takes place in "Radio Prison". It stars Philip Proctor, David Ossman, Peter Bergman, and Phil Austin. You can learn slightly more, and buy a complete stereo copy if inclined, by clicking here.
Recording courtesy Will Estill, Tape 7, Side 1
Performance of a feminist play about the forces in society which drive women crazy. Written by Winifred Emily Eades. Performed by the "Maybe She Go" Collective. Interested and/or irate listeners are invited to phone in their opinions after the show, which is live. 325-5110.
The Cast (According to the tape label)
Emily - Candace Bergen
Miranda - Elena Hoffman
Jennifer - Jody Aliesan
Ms X - Molly Johnson
Produced by Pamela Jennings
If this makes you irate, please tell us, email@example.com
Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, JSF L0322
"THEODORE" Born in Austria of well-to-do Viennese parents, Theodore came to the U.S. in 1941 with the assistance of Albert Einstein, after living in the terror of Hitler's Germany. When he arrived in this country he was broke and had only one talent, the ability to play chess blindfolded. During WW II, as if in answer to the apparent madness of the world, he conceived his one-man show and proceeded to transform horror and fear into unforgettable entertainment. Theodore's stories are at once gruesome, sinister, humorous and fascinating. Many in his audience think he is mad. Theodore responds, "I am. But madness is a very healthy sickness. If it were not for my madness, I would have gone insane long ago." Selections from his mid-50's recordings include "The Willow Landscape" and "Tears from a Glass Eye."
About once a year, it seemed to me, Captain Baltic (Nick Johnson) on his weekly Bop Stop would put together a program of comedy, satire, and the unusual. In addition to several others, these programs would always include recordings of the three B's: Lord Buckley, Lennie Bruce, and Brother Theodore.
As described above, Theodore Gottlieb, born Nov 11, 1906, was a refugee immigrant to the US in 1941, and his appearances on KRAB were popular with listeners always expecting to hear unusual out-of-the-mainstream programming. There is a short obituary (he died Apr 5, 2001) in Playbill, "Stand-Up Tragedy: 'Brother' Theodore Gottlieb Dead at 94". And a slightly longer one in the New York Times, "Theodore Gottlieb, Dark Comedian, Dies at 94".
Turn the lights down. Let your pumpkin carving light the room, and think not of that other glowing orange head 2,748 miles from here. For your All Hallows diversion you may now partake of Brother Theodore's Coral Records release from 1960.
Recording courtesy Nick Johnson, NJO0002
This writer, best known for The Visit and The Physicists, here portrays a horrifying and grotesque world of corruption. And, as if that were not sufficient, he suggests that the only possible reaction to this evil society qone mad is to laugh at it's macabre machinations. Join us. Then stay tuned, after a brief intermission we will have "After Liverpool" by James Saunders. It's another commentary on the continuing problems of communication failure, this time in the form of a voice montage.
The Sell Out was adapted for radio by Hans Houseman and translated by William R Elwood. "After Liverpool" has not yet been found.
Recording courtesy Mark Zacharias
Thanksgiving Special: Those already familiar with Archibald MacLeish's famous Broadway play will understand why we have scheduled it for Thanksgiving Day. The rest of you are in store for a surprise. This is a radio adaptation written by MacLeish himself and starring Robert Lansing, Nancy Marchand, Keene Curtis and Donald Davis in a retelling of the Old Testament story of Job. (Ed. note: This is an excellent production, with some nice stereo effects.)
Well, you won't hear the "nice stereo effects", as our copy is mono, but it is still good radio.
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An improvisation in which John Antrobus visits the local museum where Spike Milligan is in charge of the Dinosaur Gallery. Dinosaurs appears to have been originally produced by the BBC.
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The Barthelme story from which this is adapted is a favorite (Guilty Pleasures, Delta (Dell Publishing) 1963-1974). Unfortunately all we have is a brief excerpt during which two astrophysicists are discussing the subject of recently acquired photographs.
Update 2020: Still unable to locate what we believe to be the BBC's production aired on Earplay of The Photographs, but there is now a complete version online of Donald Barthelme himself reading the story. Here it is (9:31):
Earplay excerpt: Collection of C Reinsch
The Feb 1977 program guide announces that the Helix Community Theatre "is looking for people interested in becoming involved in Radio Drama, as actors/actresses, sound effects, and other various aspects of production, as well as inviting writers or potential writers to submit scripts." Paul Crane is identified as the person behind this project. The cast of this production is
Halina Pawl in the role of Mrs McWilliams
Stu Witmer as Mr McWilliams
Paul Crane as the voice at the window
Recorded off the air, we do not know exactly when it was broadcast, but it would seem to be sometime between 1977 and 1979: Halina Pawl started volunteering at KRAB in 1977, and Fred Lieberman, whose program Equal Time follows the Helix production, aired his last program that did not have a program guide description (like this one) in Apr 1979.
The play is 14 minutes, followed by credits, an ID, fill music, and an excerpt of Fred Lieberman's "Equal Time."
Recording courtesy Karen Berge, KB0100
An autobiographical sound portrait with reminiscences by John Howard Griffin, author of Black Like Me, and readings from his works. Produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
In this program aspects of the complex life of John Howard Griffin are revealed, including his writing of fiction and nonfiction, his explorations of photography, musicology, theology, and friendships. All of these vocations were infused with an humanistic instinct. Another program appropriate to the anniversary of Freedom Summer.
Released as part of the 1976-1977 Earplay season, with a production date of Oct 24, 1976. During the 1977-1978 season of Earplay a one hour version of this program was produced ("Another Visit With John Howard Griffin"), but KRAB was unable to broadcast it.
Collection of C Reinsch, CR0086
The following comes from a 2002 interview of Tom Lopez of ZBS Media (Fourth Tower of Inverness, Moon Over Morocco, etc) by Roger Gregg of Ireland’s Crazy Dog Audio Theatre. The full interview is available here.
GREGG: When I spoke to Yuri Rasovsky, he described things happening for American radio drama the 70’s, and then it’s demise and you and he seeing the writing on the wall.
LOPEZ: The thing was that the money wasn't there for radio drama. NPR was formed around ‘71 or 72 - we predate NPR by about a year. Earplay came into existence and I think they lasted about 8 years to about ‘79. And they literally got all the money. CPB, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, would give them whatever, big, big chunks of money, and then the National Endowment for the Arts would match it. I think Yuri would occasionally get a little money from them, but no one else was getting anything. They got everything. They just sort of wiped the slate clean. And they came up with a proposal sometime in the later 70s which was when they brought in this well-known producer from the BBC. He travelled around. He said ‘What we need to do is something like STAR WARS’, which had just come out. ‘And we need to do that on radio’. Which they did and was quite successful.
GREGG: This was the series directed by John Madden ?
LOPEZ: I think so. …. The thing is that they put forward a proposal…. That is Earplay, NPR. The proposal was that they would have 3 centres producing radio drama. One doing classical, one doing popular, one doing serious drama, I believe. … And it was starting off with 1.1. million and then it would increase to about 2 million. We looked at this proposal and were horrified. We said ‘If this thing happens, we’re screwed. Nobody else in this country will ever see any kind of money for producing radio drama’. And so we put up a stink. Yuri joined in and maybe a couple others. The National Endowment listened to us, CPB wouldn’t listen to us. And the National Endowment agreed and that year didn’t fund Earplay at all. They got zero. And they collapsed. Which surprised us because we didn’t say get rid of the guys, we just said this is unfair and that the money should be distributed around. So we were quite surprised that they were just wiped out totally.
GREGG: Perhaps secretly, unbeknownst to you, the National Endowment was just looking for a pretext to pull the plug?
LOPEZ: You’re right. It wasn’t secret. Their ratings had gone way down, that is, their station coverage, they didn’t have ratings for public radio back then. …A lot of stations were complaining about their material. For various reasons. I think one of the things was that they kept using more and more BBC productions and less and less producing. But that’s my speculation. It definitely was dwindling with less stations. So it was a good reason to spread the money around which NEA then did. Not a lot but certainly it helped some of us.
If you possess any souvenirs (program guides, tapes, or photos) or have a story about your experience with KRAB you are willing to share, please email firstname.lastname@example.org